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Old Aug 30, 2007, 12:36 AM // 00:36   #1
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I am writing this because I was bored and decided to compare the MMORPG World of Warcraft to our beloved Guild Wars. I rate them in 8 categories: Graphics, payment, PvP, PvE. Society/guilds, equipment, character customization and crafting.

Graphics: The graphics in Guild wars are pretty good, realistic and overall not too shabby. World of Warcraft, on the other hand, has some pretty corny looking graphics. I understand its meant to fit in with the rest of the Warcraft universe but it looks like something off of a Nintendo 64. So in this department, GW wins.

Payment: Not much to talk about here, Guild Wars is free, WoW isn't, you have to pay 15 dollars a month for WoW. Hence, GW wins here too.

PvP: GW has some awesome PvP, its battles are always intense and your always in the action, plus there are no long que lines. You also have a lot of variety in forms of fighting. WoW also has fun PvP but with some slight differences. Whenever you join a battle it sometimes takes literally HOURS to get in, and then the battles last a long time too, which is good, save sometimes you're just waiting guarding this or that and it gets pretty boring. But it also let's you team up and fight agaisnt a lot more people than Guid Wars. So in PvP WoW and GW tie.

PvE: In GW the PvE is as good as the PvP. Theres an arcing story and you always know where to go because of the arrows. WoW does not have an arcing story that ties the quests together, and this kills the illusion of a fantasy world with you as a hero greatly, plus sometimes you don't know where to go and get lost because there is no arrow pointing you to you're objective. But the dungeons make up for this with tons of enemies and interesting bosses and unique locations. The dungeons in WoW are like the missions in GW but much, much better. So in this dept. WoW wins.

Society/Guilds: GW also has a pretty good society. People arent too disrespectful excluding the occasional naked noob yelling curse words. The guilds in GW are also pretty tight, everyone is willing to help or at least listen. Plus theres Guild Halls, which I think are really cool. WoW also has a good society that's basically the same as GW, only in my opinion since there are so many people playing WoW I think its easier to make friends. The guilds in WoW are also pretty nice and helpful but you dont have a guild hall, which is kind of too bad. So in this category its also a tie.

Equipment: In GW the equipment always looks cool, because the armor is put into uniforms so you basically cant go wrong, but I wish there was a little more variety in it. In WoW there are tons and tons of different types of armor with lots of different stats. Which means you'll almost never run into somone with the same outfit as you, unlike GW. However, since there are so many types of armor and weapons it's a bit harder to look cool in your armor sometimes. But that's not that big of a deal. So WoW wins in the equipment category.

Character customization: This is a hard one. Both games give tons of asthetic looks for your character, although GWs can change height. Both give you many skills to choose from too which also makes for a unique experience. GW gives you two professions which lead to even more customability and the attributes in GW also lead to more customization. In WoW you can change your attributes through armor and enchantments but your stuck with one profession. Theres also talents in WoW which allow you to get uniqe abilities catering to the talent line you chose, which you cant do in GW. So in Character customization I'd also say its a tie.

Crafting: Crafting is an easy one. While in GW you msut got to armor crafters or weapon crafters to make new items in WoW you can make tons of items you need with different proffesions, which you can take two. Theres mining, blacksmithing, jewelcrafting, engineering, skinning, leatherworking, herbalism, alchemy, etc. And these crafting professions branch off into different types also. Like in engineering you can either be a gnome engineer, which focuses on making trinkets and such, or a goblin engineer, which lets you make powerful bombs. So in the category of crafting, WoW wins.

So on a score of 6-5 WoW wins by one point. Which game do you thinks better? Write which one and you reasons why, thx!

P.S This is my opinion and sorry if you think GW is the best game in the world or something, I like GW too but like I said, its my opinion, if you disagree post and give your reasons why.
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Old Aug 30, 2007, 04:23 AM // 04:23   #2
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Gw is better becase you dont pay evry month and wow u pay evry month
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Old Aug 30, 2007, 04:49 AM // 04:49   #3
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both are really good imo

WoW is better for the simple fact that i can keep working towards new and better items while in gw once i got me some fissure and some rare skins i became bored

just me though
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Graphics: The graphics in Guild wars are pretty good, realistic and overall not too shabby. World of Warcraft, on the other hand, has some pretty corny looking graphics. I understand its meant to fit in with the rest of the Warcraft universe but it looks like something off of a Nintendo 64. So in this department, GW wins.
yup i agree there

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Payment: Not much to talk about here, Guild Wars is free, WoW isn't, you have to pay 15 dollars a month for WoW. Hence, GW wins here too.
thid gets a big DUH!

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PvP: GW has some awesome PvP, its battles are always intense and your always in the action, plus there are no long que lines. You also have a lot of variety in forms of fighting. WoW also has fun PvP but with some slight differences. Whenever you join a battle it sometimes takes literally HOURS to get in, and then the battles last a long time too, which is good, save sometimes you're just waiting guarding this or that and it gets pretty boring. But it also let's you team up and fight agaisnt a lot more people than Guid Wars. So in PvP WoW and GW tie.
WRONG! GW pvp blows wow pvp OUT OF THE WATER no comparision, i can say this because i have played wow and pvp is HORRIBLE, in wow there is the long cues like you said, and boring parts, but you like the bigger battles.... well the big battles are not really epic like you would think, it usally breaks down into a couple of people point capping, a couple of people fighting in groups a few 1v1ing and QUITE a few fishing or afk or running in circles.... really epic....... AB is MUCH more epic than the large scale battles in wow so GW wins in pvp


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PvE: In GW the PvE is as good as the PvP. Theres an arcing story and you always know where to go because of the arrows. WoW does not have an arcing story that ties the quests together, and this kills the illusion of a fantasy world with you as a hero greatly, plus sometimes you don't know where to go and get lost because there is no arrow pointing you to you're objective. But the dungeons make up for this with tons of enemies and interesting bosses and unique locations. The dungeons in WoW are like the missions in GW but much, much better. So in this dept. WoW wins.
well gw:en blows your wow wins arguments right out of the water, first of all even before GW:EN came out i thought GW pve was better cause no grind allowed you to be casual and get right into the action with no delay, a compelling story made you want to go on made you want to go on, and titles and vanity armor gave you things to strive for.

Now that gw:en is coming out we have dungeons that are just as, if not more fun than wows, and i just played the first 4, the bosses are interesting and varied in the dungeons and the game is much deeper now, looks to me that wow loses this too

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Society/Guilds: GW also has a pretty good society. People arent too disrespectful excluding the occasional naked noob yelling curse words. The guilds in GW are also pretty tight, everyone is willing to help or at least listen. Plus theres Guild Halls, which I think are really cool. WoW also has a good society that's basically the same as GW, only in my opinion since there are som any people playing WoW I think its easier to make friends. The guilds in WoW are also pretty nice and helpful but you dont have a guild hall, which is kind of too bad. So in this category its also a tie.
i kinda agree here with the added wow has custom ranks, and GW has GvG

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Equipment: In GW the equipment always looks cool, because the armor is put into uniforms so you basically cant go wrong, but I wish there was a little more variety in it. In WoW there are tons and tons of different types of armor with lots of different stats. Which means you'll almost never run into somone with the same outfit as you, unlike GW. However, since there are so many types of armor and weapons it's a bit harder to look cool in your armor sometimes. But that's not that big of a deal. So WoW wins in the equipment category.
i think this goes to GW too, though GW does not have quite the amount of armor sets WoW has, the choose your armor by looks not stats thing about GW is great, cause my step bro still plays wow and ATM he is pissed cause he looks like a retarded power ranger but he has to have that armor cause it has the best stats, AND in wow you do see people wearing your armor EVERYWHERE, well at high levels that is cause most everyone has like teir 3 or teir 4 so really ya same armor every where. also the armor is not really even armor in wow, well up until the higher levels, most armor in wow looks painted on or has no depth or is just plain ugly, and because you dont get to choose the stats your stuck whereing armor that does not fit your personality.

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Character customization: This is a hard one. Both games give tons of asthetic looks for your character, although GWs can change height. Both give you many skills to choose from too which also makes for a unique experience. GW gives you two professions which lead to even more customability and the attributes in GW also lead to more customization. In WoW you can change your attributes through armor and enchantments but your stuck with one profession. Theres also talents in WoW which allow you to get uniqe abilities catering to the talent line you chose, which you cant do in GW. So in Character customization I'd also say its a tie.
yes i agree and i would even lean more towards wow on this one

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Crafting: Crafting is an easy one. While in GW you msut got to armor crafters or weapon crafters to make new items in WoW you can make tons of items you need with different proffesions, which you can take two. Theres mining, blacksmithing, jewelcrafting, engineering, skinning, leatherworking, herbalism, alchemy, etc. And these crafting professions branch off into different types also. Like in engineering you can either be a gnome engineer, which focuses on making trinkets and such, or a goblin engineer, which lets you make powerful bombs. So in the category of crafting, WoW wins.
yes wow wins in this but really imo this is not a really good thing to base the quality of a game on but meh w/e

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So on a score of 6-5 WoW wins by one point. Which game do you thinks better? Write which one and you reasons why, thx!

P.S This is my opinion and sorry if you think GW is the best game in the world or something, I like GW too but like I said, its my opinion, if you disagree post and give your reasons why.
well by my new points and count its 3-6 with GW in the lead, but if you want to challenge any point i made feel free
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Old Aug 30, 2007, 10:09 AM // 10:09   #5
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Graphics: The graphics in Guild wars are pretty good, realistic and overall not too shabby. World of Warcraft, on the other hand, has some pretty corny looking graphics. I understand its meant to fit in with the rest of the Warcraft universe but it looks like something off of a Nintendo 64. So in this department, GW wins.
Agreed here.

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Payment: Not much to talk about here, Guild Wars is free, WoW isn't, you have to pay 15 dollars a month for WoW. Hence, GW wins here too.
I broke this down even further. Using Amazon.com current prices:

World of Warcraft(inc BC):$54.99 + 15/mo
GW(All 3 + GW:en) : $145.99 + 0/mo

So Guild Wars costs more if you play for 6 mos or less. Less if you play for more than 6 mos. (This will drop to 3 months when the Lich King comes out for another $40)

GW has the advantage that you can shove the game in a drawer for a year and come back (assuming they don't shut it down when GW2 comes out...) without bleeding $180. (The claims that WoW keeps your characters is untrue. My SERVER isn't even around anymore...)

Slight edge to GW here, since I will probably only play for 3 months or so, but we'll call it a tie.

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PvP: GW has some awesome PvP, its battles are always intense and your always in the action, plus there are no long que lines. You also have a lot of variety in forms of fighting. WoW also has fun PvP but with some slight differences. Whenever you join a battle it sometimes takes literally HOURS to get in, and then the battles last a long time too, which is good, save sometimes you're just waiting guarding this or that and it gets pretty boring. But it also let's you team up and fight agaisnt a lot more people than Guid Wars. So in PvP WoW and GW tie.
Disagreed. WoW isn't PvP, it's gear vs gear. Expect to wait in queues up to an hour to play, and get stuck with 40 people you don't even know. You think PUGs are bad?
GW with GvG wins in a landslide.

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PvE: In GW the PvE is as good as the PvP. Theres an arcing story and you always know where to go because of the arrows. WoW does not have an arcing story that ties the quests together, and this kills the illusion of a fantasy world with you as a hero greatly, plus sometimes you don't know where to go and get lost because there is no arrow pointing you to you're objective. But the dungeons make up for this with tons of enemies and interesting bosses and unique locations. The dungeons in WoW are like the missions in GW but much, much better. So in this dept. WoW wins.
Another disagreement. GW instancing the explorable areas is a great idea. Henchmen/Heroes are a great idea. The overarching story is wonderful. Map Travel is a godsend.

The dungeons don't make up for all that. Point: GW


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Society/Guilds: GW also has a pretty good society. People arent too disrespectful excluding the occasional naked noob yelling curse words. The guilds in GW are also pretty tight, everyone is willing to help or at least listen. Plus theres Guild Halls, which I think are really cool. WoW also has a good society that's basically the same as GW, only in my opinion since there are som any people playing WoW I think its easier to make friends. The guilds in WoW are also pretty nice and helpful but you dont have a guild hall, which is kind of too bad. So in this category its also a tie.
The biggest problem I have with guilds in GW is that all of your characters are forced into the same guild, and guilds are pretty specialized, just like in WoW, so you can't join your farmer into the farming guild, your PvE toon into the storyline guild, and PvP char into the GvG Guild. This hurts a lot. Point: WoW

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Equipment: In GW the equipment always looks cool, because the armor is put into uniforms so you basically cant go wrong, but I wish there was a little more variety in it. In WoW there are tons and tons of different types of armor with lots of different stats. Which means you'll almost never run into somone with the same outfit as you, unlike GW. However, since there are so many types of armor and weapons it's a bit harder to look cool in your armor sometimes. But that's not that big of a deal. So WoW wins in the equipment category.
Disagree emphatically. The wide range of gear is the Achilles' heel of WoW, AFAIC. The quest for the ub3r-l00tz and blizzard's bizzare concept of 'balance' have lead to the problem cited with pvp above. GW lets you pick your gear to taste instead of to stats, since you won't have to worry about taking the stupid looking 20-40 bow over the cool 15-28 bow. Even moreso with armor. Choice is only a good thing. And the gear in GW is beautiful, as opposed to WoW's 'banana spaulders'

GW takes this one .


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Character customization: This is a hard one. Both games give tons of asthetic looks for your character, although GWs can change height. Both give you many skills to choose from too which also makes for a unique experience. GW gives you two professions which lead to even more customability and the attributes in GW also lead to more customization. In WoW you can change your attributes through armor and enchantments but your stuck with one profession. Theres also talents in WoW which allow you to get uniqe abilities catering to the talent line you chose, which you cant do in GW. So in Character customization I'd also say its a tie.
I have to give this point to guild wars. WoW has talent trees, sure. They also discourage you from experimenting by charging you an incrementally for changing your build. This gets very expensive after not too many resets. GW's setup allows you to reset everything at will, encouraging experimentation and not locking you in. Travelling with a group instead of soloing? Then switch your build around. No problem!

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Crafting: Crafting is an easy one. While in GW you msut got to armor crafters or weapon crafters to make new items in WoW you can make tons of items you need with different proffesions, which you can take two. Theres mining, blacksmithing, jewelcrafting, engineering, skinning, leatherworking, herbalism, alchemy, etc. And these crafting professions branch off into different types also. Like in engineering you can either be a gnome engineer, which focuses on making trinkets and such, or a goblin engineer, which lets you make powerful bombs. So in the category of crafting, WoW wins.
I'm loathe to even give WoW a full point for this, since all it really does is encourage more grind, but if you insist...

GW wins, 6-3. A solid lead.
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Old Aug 30, 2007, 10:31 AM // 10:31   #6
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Well at least, this thread wasnt post at riverside, folks would go nuts. Anyway I like WOW in term of,...ah what's the word? Y'know, the feeling that it's living world, my 1st time when I entered Stormwind and saw people coming and going, that was great, jump on the griffon and fly that was great too. Towns and Cities in WOW are great.

GW doesn't have that feeling to it, enter LA and it feel like a market place or town sq, rather than a big major city, same goes with Ascalon to Kamadan.

But remember that WOW was design to be like that, big and bigger, it design to suck you in and dried up your credit card. It was fun for me til lv 30-40 after that it went down hill fast.

I like GW, pick up and play style, no need to spend forever and a half to lv up, max gears are easy to get. PVP is not base on gears, PVE is fun most of the time. No fee is a plus but no biggie for me really.

If it just WOW and GW, I would go for GW. If it any online games, I would go for EVE.
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Old Aug 30, 2007, 12:08 PM // 12:08   #7
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GW PvP > WoW PvP
GW: 12398723 points - WoW: 0 points

GW wins
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I don't think many people will say things like "WoW>GW", seeing that this is a forum for the the (mostly) people who play Guild Wars.
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Neither of them are better. Both have their pros and cons, like every game. You cannot simply say that one is better then the other.
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Neither of them are better. Both have their pros and cons, like every game. You cannot simply say that one is better then the other.
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wow has it's fanbase

gw has it's fanbase

people have fun with both games
that's the most important thing of all, when it comes to gaming
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I don't think many people will say things like "WoW>GW", seeing that this is a forum for the the (mostly) people who play Guild Wars.
x2 - For a less biased answer, you're probably better off asking it on a more generic MMORPG or video game forum, not a fansite of one of the games.
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Wow has on guildwars
1. Ability kill others in the world outside pvp
2. Auction house
3. True 3d

Guildwars has everything else
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Neither of them are better. Both have their pros and cons, like every game. You cannot simply say that one is better then the other.
the fan boys beg to differ

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Well, your not going to get the right answer here thats for shure!

its all a matter of opinion .. wow - 8 mil? .. Gw 4 mil? .. work it out for yourself.

do you like missions/guests and a decent storyline?
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do you like millions of quests, to much grind and want to be the best.
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for all the people who may have ran a bg or two on there free wow trial account and think there WoW pvp experts......

hit 70 and run some competitive arena games imo
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x2 - For a less biased answer, you're probably better off asking it on a more generic MMORPG or video game forum, not a fansite of one of the games.
I know I probaly won't get honest answers here, but I kinda just wanted to see how people would react, especially the fans of GW.

.....Nobodies gotten too angry yet..... JK!
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I agree with the original poster, except with

'World of Warcraft(inc BC):$54.99 + 15/mo
GW(All 3 + GW:en) : $145.99 + 0/mo'

In the place of 'guild wars is free'
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I agree with the original poster, except with

'World of Warcraft(inc BC):$54.99 + 15/mo
GW(All 3 + GW:en) : $145.99 + 0/mo'

In the place of 'guild wars is free'
I always hate these arguments. People often skew the prices heavily one way or the other. Not directed at your post, really more at the last WoW vs GW cost analysis argument that went underway in the last GW vs WoW incarnation I skimmed.

What I mean to say is, what people paid for World of Warcraft and Guild Wars varies highly. If you bought WoW when it first came out, the game was what, $40-$50 USD? And if you bought GW when it first came out, it was $50 USD, generally.

If you buy World of Warcraft new now, it's a mere $20 retail, and no idea if you can get it cheaper elsewhere. However, conversely, Guild Wars Prophecies is available at $29.99 consistently, and occasionally, people post up links to sales on Prophecies for as little as $20. I believe there was a recent Factions sale on Amazon or something?

If you can shop around, you can probably pull together a complete set of the Guild Wars Trilogy for less than $100 total, through time and patience.

How many people really do? I've no idea. Many people have played WoW since close to its release and paid the full price, while others started late and paid less. The same is true of GW, and I know at least one guild member that started with a full price Nightfall, and upgraded using a cheap key from Factions. (But has no Prophecies )

Even the $15 a month WoW fee isn't static, as, if I recall correctly, you can buy longer subscriptions at a slight discount.

There is no single cost estimate that is going to apply to everyone, or even necessarily most people. I know longterm WoWaholics, as well as recent converts, and GWaddicts since the BWE's, and people with only Factions or Nightfall. All have paid differing amounts.
In the end, it doesn't even matter. The price of apples in China is irrelevant if what you want is really oranges, and vice versa.
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is the long cues
I can get into, and complete, multiple Battleground matches before you can even get into one (or maybe two, on a good day) Alliance Battle. "No Opposing Party", much? I'm not sure where you got your information about waiting times, but from my experience, you have it backwards. There are long waits in both games, but the waits in Guild Wars tend to be longer, when it comes to your "epic" scale matches. Your points about the battles themselves are also incorrect. There are more players AFK in Alliance Battles than in a given BG, due to the fact that if you go AFK in a BG, you get punished for it. There are more players attempting to 1v1 in AB than BG, because in BG, people actually get rewarded for working as a team, whereas in AB, nobody cares and everyone just wants to test their "leet" build on some "noobs" to show how "mad pro" they are. All in all, BG is a much more "active" experience than AB. If you are going to bash a game, you should probably have some actual experience and knowledge on the subject before you open your mouth (or hit Post Reply, in this case).

Anyway, comparing the two games is pointless. Two games, two worlds, two player-bases (that sometimes overlap). Why bother?
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Hey, when I made this post it was just for fun. It may be pointless but I was bored,
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